Why I (Probably) Won’t Return To America

A commenter recently asked about why I returned to Vietnam, which is something that I haven’t really thought about. I will add that going back to the US was never meant to be permanent. Check out my article discussing why I went home in the first place.

This article will cover the reasons I’m back in Asia, which is basically the same as why I won’t go back anytime soon.

Warning: There is some political stuff, but it’s hard to mention the reasons without mentioning the politics.

My Hometown is Expensive

The main reason I came back to Vietnam is the high cost of living in America… specifically in my hometown. It didn’t used to be that way, but it is now.

None of my friends can truly afford to live on their own – they all have roommates or live with their parents. Some of them even qualify for food stamps and public housing. And these are all guys that work decent white collar jobs.

Can you believe that?

Personally, I don’t like living with other people. Sure, you’re never lonely with roommates, but sharing a house with someone isn’t ideal. It’s just something that no one likes once you’re out of college.

All that said, the expense isn’t necessarily a deal breaker for me. However…

My Hometown Doesn’t Feel Like America

According to the 2010 census, my hometown is minority white. You know it when you go to certain neighborhoods.

You think the language barrier is only a problem when travelling outside America?

Oh my sweet summer child.

I had language barrier problems in my hometown. No joke. I took some metal to the scrapyard and… no one there spoke English!

Now, I expect that when I’m abroad. But America is (was) an English speaking country since forever.

Vietnamese, Koreans, and Japanese don’t have to worry about the clerk at Circle-K not speaking the mother tongue. Why don’t Americans get that same privilege?*

It’s frustrating to feel like an outsider in your own country.

*This is a hypothetical question – I know the answer.

Everyone Wants To Talk Politics

Everyone wants to discuss politics, which is extremely annoying because American politics is literally fake and literally gay. The entire federal political scene is just theater meant to gain your consent.

Ever notice that nothing really changes no matter who is in office?

And that the government often goes directly against the will of the people?

And that your local police look/act more like a military than a police force?

And that the US has the highest prison population in the world?

Hmmmmmm…. that sounds like FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY to me. It’s definitely not the tyrannical, authoritarian police state that you find in the Middle East or South America…

Some Parts of America Are Nice Tho

The title is actually clickbait because I do plan on returning to America. However, it won’t be to my part for the reasons listed above.

When I move back it’ll be to a cold place AND a place not near the Interstate Highway System. The interstate destroys cities and towns.

Also, when I say cold, I mean snow AND cold. None of this bitch ass cold where it’s 40 degrees (6 Celsius) in January.

I’m talking the type of cold where it snows 9 months of the year. Where you have 10 foot high snowbanks and have to shovel your way out of your house.

One problem: I’ve never seen major snow in my life nor ever been in remotely cold weather, but I’ll tough it out. I barely go outside anymore anyway.

Final Thoughts

America is very expensive. And you don’t get much for that high cost of living due to the two reasons listed above.

Totally not worth it. 3rd world countries have problems, but the low CoL makes it worth it.

Some of the colder and more rural parts of the US still look alright – for now.

16 Comments

  1. >I’d drive a semi-truck OTR (very low living expenses), start a lawn mowing business, or work in the oil fields (as a trucker – usually live in the truck, so low expenses) if I moved back.

    That’s a no for me. 0 dexterity and a bit autistic with these things. But the idea of having low expenses is nice. My apartment is too damn expensive. Hate it..

    > I once mentioned applying for the CIA in an article. And it’s probably the same guy using different names lol.

    Funny stuff. Thought of doing this. Everything bores me….

  2. >Well yeah. The solution is to make more money. There are plenty of digital nomads pulling in 5-6 figures. Probably some 7 figure ones, but that’s not attainable for most people imo. Honestly, I’d be ecstatic making $50k/year online in Vietnam. You shouldn’t care about being a peasant, though. My lifestyle wouldn’t change if I quadrupled my income.

    I agree. I actually want to work remotely for a US company in a low-cost country in Asia/Europe or try the digital nomad thing again later in life. I only want to make more so I can save/invest/retire early. 50k/year in another country would be nice ( lower cost of living + affordable healthcare). The whole traveling/digital nomad thing becomes boring after a while ( used to be happy making 1-2k/month writing when I first started).

    >Yeah, that’s gonna be a no from me.

    Fair enough. I’m only doing this for 3-5 years maybe, just in case I want to come back to the US later in life. People annoy me here, and I have to spend a lot of energy searching for smart people.

    I agree re. Trump. I just don’t want Biden or Sanders to win. Hate the DNC.

    Enjoying the posts. It has been interesting to watch this blog transition hahaha.

  3. Yo Neo,

    Cool article on many levels. First of all, why do all these cucks think you are with Langely? Lol.

    The United States is way too expensive ( mainly rent). Ditching the expat life in Asia to return for 50k/year is such a drain, even if you don’t have to pop pills to cope with it all. This is not to mention all the emotional identity politicals nonsense and the fact that its hard to relate to people who have not spent years outside the country. Feel like an alien in any country at this point.

    But the bigger problem I had was becoming a digital nomad peasant ( no offense) in Asia or wherever. I still think like a peasant because I got used to the lower cost of living and I knew the economy in the US was not so good. But actually that mindset is bullshit. Things have been better here, and I am planning a new escape somewhere in the future (probably Europe). Having a safety net in the US, Asia, and other places might be what makes shit happen for me.

    I wonder if its really that hard to find work in the US and if people are really struggling that much? I live in a bubble and I have only seen pieces. The LBH narrative seems to be penned by people that would be a loser in Burkina Faso, or any other damn country. I would have been better off if I stayed in the US and did not go to Asia I think, as Asia was a bit of a waste and US companies don’t care about it.

    I think places like Minnesota and Colorado are solid options. I don’t see why you don’t take some gig in the US and do the digital nomad shit on the side. You can actually find companies in the US that actually have a good working culture, although the pay is not going to be wonderful.

    Mortgage rates are so low now, so I would rather buy something here instead of paying cheap rent in Asia or wherever. The fed actually thinks lowering rates will help. Lol.

    Anyway, I would never live in a big city here. I agree with you. Cali cities and NYC are going downhill, and they are full of libtards. I will stick with towns with a pop. between 100-300k, and then get the hell out whenever the DNC gains more power. Really hoping Trump wins.

    1. >But the bigger problem I had was becoming a digital nomad peasant ( no offense) in Asia or wherever.

      Well yeah. The solution is to make more money. There are plenty of digital nomads pulling in 5-6 figures. Probably some 7 figure ones, but that’s not attainable for most people imo.

      Honestly, I’d be ecstatic making $50k/year online in Vietnam. You shouldn’t care about being a peasant, though. My lifestyle wouldn’t change if I quadrupled my income.

      >I don’t see why you don’t take some gig in the US and do the digital nomad shit on the side. You can actually find companies in the US that actually have a good working culture, although the pay is not going to be wonderful.

      I’d make/save less money while working more, have to deal with dumb Americans every day, eat more junk food, get taxed out the ass, go bankrupt if I break my arm, and not be able to find a suitable wife…

      Yeah, that’s gonna be a no from me.

      >You can actually find companies in the US that actually have a good working culture, although the pay is not going to be wonderful.

      I’d drive a semi-truck OTR (very low living expenses), start a lawn mowing business, or work in the oil fields (as a trucker – usually live in the truck, so low expenses) if I moved back.

      >Really hoping Trump wins.

      Trump isn’t going to do anything. He is fucking hilarious tho.

    2. >First of all, why do all these cucks think you are with Langely? Lol.

      I once mentioned applying for the CIA in an article. And it’s probably the same guy using different names lol.

  4. Hey Mike,
    also German here. I can only agree on every single one of your points. Life in Germany really has become as miserable as it can possibly be.
    – Migrants? Yeah fuck them. I haven’t felt save in Berlin during nights in years.
    – Taxes? Fuck it. I’m not paying 200k/year to have sandnig**** dealing drugs in my street while police watches them and politicians argue it’s okay because nobody should be discriminated (not even kidding). I moved all of my businesses to Switzerland. Taxes are low and I don’t mind the high COL in Zuerich as I’m only going there a few times a year.
    – Women? Fuck them. Honestly I sticked to escort dates for the last years. Can’t find anything remotely interesting in Berlin women. They want to have a career rather than having a family yet they’re sitting in some shitty digital agency making 40k/year. Bitch that’s not a career, that’s corporate sellout and most likely old-age poverty.
    – Lack of truly free speech
    – Leftists, commies and greens everywhere. Even in the conservative party.

    It’s also remarkable how life there seems to get worse the more money you make. Haven’t had this impression in any other country I’ve been to. My only commitment left in Germany is a house I bought last year in the area I grew up in but for now it’s rented out and I wouldn’t want to live there before retirement anyways (super rural area).
    After all really no need to go back. Switzerland is an alternative for people that are well off but as long as you’re not requiring any serious medical treatments I absolutely can’t think of a single reason to live there. Maybe if have kids one day and I’d like them to spend their highschool years in Switzerland or Germany to learn about our rich history and culture but they can probably learn about that stuff in any decent international school.

    1. Maybe if have kids one day and I’d like them to spend their highschool years in Switzerland or Germany to learn about our rich history and culture but they can probably learn about that stuff in any decent international school.

      I doubt they teach anything positive about German history in German schools, which is unfortunate. Germans have an amazingly rich history and culture.

      1. Let me guess .. you are from California?
        I left 9 months ago and I found every reason and every way to stay away from America. All of my friends say when are you coming back home. What they reallyare asking is one of my going back so I can join everyone being homeless. I have a home i rent in Thailand. It’s literally $100 a month (which i split the cost with my gf) and it’s better than the shity apartment that I was living in when I was in California. Everybody wants to talk about fucking Trump or about super shity liberal causes. I’m watching America downward spiral, while I get to enjoy a peaceful life, the ability to do much more of what I like, and a loyal girlfriend (as far as I know, haha… While in America you know they’re all cheating). I just casually took a vacation to Ho Chi Minh City this weekend for a quick visa run. If I was home I would have had to fly 26 hours to get here and I can only do this once a year if I’m lucky. maybe it’s the language barrier that makes me not have to experience all the corruption, but I’m still finding anyway and every reason to not go back.

        1. Nah, not California. It’s telling that most people think California when I describe it.

          It’s literally $100 a month (which i split the cost with my gf) and it’s better than the shity apartment that I was living in when I was in California. Everybody wants

          Damn. That’s a good price. I wish the visa process was easier in Thailand. Military dictatorships are pretty awesome imo.

          maybe it’s the language barrier that makes me not have to experience all the corruption

          Yeah, this is a good point. The language barrier is a huge boon to being an expat. And I don’t even find the corruption that bad. At least they’re honest about how things work here ($$$).

  5. I am from Germany, which has been overrun by migrants in the recent years. While they get free housing, health insurance and money from Mrs. Merkel and the leftist government, the quality of life has gone down a lot. People still think Germany is a clean country like Switzerland oder even Singapore, but the reality is quite different.
    Quality of life is low, the weather cold and rainy and taxes and COL are sky-high. Dont get me started on entitled German feminist women.
    Really wasnt hard to leave that place a few years ago and not planning on going back any time soon.

    1. Ouch. Yeah, I’ve heard things are bad all across western Europe. UK, Sweden, France, Belgium, and Germany seem to be the worst.

      And that free housing, health insurance, and money is coming from YOU.

  6. CoL is lower in HCMC. Which also means that for any given budget, the standard of living here is so much higher than back home. I’m from Portland, OR. I couldn’t afford to take Grab/Uber every single day. I couldn’t eat out every meal. And even if I could afford it, there aren’t any high rise apartment buildings downtown with pools on the roofs. If you can make money online, it almost doesn’t make sense to live in America.

    1. If you can make money online, it almost doesn’t make sense to live in America.

      It doesn’t. The rural parts of the US look nice enough, but the cities… no.

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